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Improving and modifying

Postby Nirvana » 17. Jul 05, 11:54

I'd like to take the opportunity of this topic to point out what I feel as a general behaviour towards software and with which I do not agree.

If the idea of criticizm is to improve, fine: nothing is perfect and discovering bugs or matters to be possibly enhanced is worth being stated; it helps everyone.

But if the idea - which seems to be an expanding attitude - is to require or even propose modification of the very software's architecture, in order to satisfy personal tastes and preferences, in order to get a sort of home-made revisited software, then I disagree. "Yes, but everyone would appreciate it" seem to implicitly or explicitly argue some. How do they know?
Besides improvement, the software is the programmer's creation: let us not ask him to revisit his code just to have an extra - more or less capricious - feature.

Take it as it is or leave it, I would say. I've taken Silverjuke because I like it as it is. There are as salways possible improvements, period. If programmers start trying to satisfy everyone's personal expectancies, then we end up with a bloat software fattened by a multitude of extra features which are more cumbersome to all than profitable to a few.

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Re: Improving and modifying

Postby drewkare » 17. Jul 05, 16:00

Nirvana wrote:
> I'd like to take the opportunity of this topic to
> point out what I feel as a general behaviour
> towards software and with which I do not agree.
>
> If the idea of criticizm is to improve, fine:
> nothing is perfect and discovering bugs or
> matters to be possibly enhanced is worth being
> stated; it helps everyone.
>
> But if the idea - which seems to be an expanding
> attitude - is to require or even propose
> modification of the very software's architecture,
> in order to satisfy personal tastes and
> preferences, in order to get a sort of home-made
> revisited software, then I disagree.

I don't know whether or not to infer that you are thinking I am doing this. I'm wondering about this, because following the links I've provided to show the skills, projects, and options that seem to be in HIGH demand would, in fact, demonstrate that the proposition I put forth not only ISN'T satisfying MY personal tastes and preferences, but in actuality IS satisfying a REQUIREMENT of quite a large number of people that would otherwise find the software unusable. I see that as a clear enhancement for widespread appeal.


> "Yes, but
> everyone would appreciate it" seem to implicitly
> or explicitly argue some. How do they know?
> Besides improvement, the software is the
> programmer's creation: let us not ask him to
> revisit his code just to have an extra - more or
> less capricious - feature.

Trying to simplify the answer in case following my link is too tedious, suppose you have a handicapped individual. Could not my suggestion aid them in use? Is that to be considered "capricious"? I know that you may be using THIS opportunity to make your point, but in doing so, give the impression that MY queries and suggestions are exactly what you are speaking of. I've worked with several developers in the past to fine-tune their software. I realize throwing in every last gee-gaw known to man not only isn't practical or useful, it invites problems with the software. My questions are almost specifically related to interacting with a keyboard and in making the commands easier or more intuitive to the end user as to condense them down to a handful of button presses. That would still be possible with a keyboard matrix, the two other tools simplify even a keyboard matrix!

> Take it as it is or leave it, I would say. I've
> taken Silverjuke because I like it as it is.
> There are as salways possible improvements,
> period. If programmers start trying to satisfy
> everyone's personal expectancies, then we end up
> with a bloat software fattened by a multitude of
> extra features which are more cumbersome to all
> than profitable to a few.

Clearly, I'd have left it. I must simply INSIST at this time that you follow the links I've posted to see if, in fact, I am looking to get my personal expectancies satisfied, or if I'm actually someone who's offered up a recommendation for software to a mass audience requiring EXACTLY what I have spoken of here, and have demonstrated the concepts necessary to be useful to a multitude.

I am not sure whether to be offended or not, because your insinuation by entering this into my thread is that I AM, in fact, guilty of what you mention, yet you never clearly state it. IF you believe me to be guilty of this, I challenge you to do exactly what I've insisted above, and examine my credentials and the concepts I raised my initial questions about. It's insulting to think that you used the clear popularity, based on the number of views in comparison to the rest of the topics, of the idea I posted (probably by the very people I have recommended this software to) in order to put forth your point instead of simply creating your own thread.

That you may have not even looked into what I proposed simply because the software works for you, and you can't see outside the box to understand why my ideas WOULD be an improvement to many others HAS entered my mind. I'd like to point once again to the popularity of the thread topic to demonstrate that it IS one of the larger options people are concerned about, which would back up my words here.

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New beta-version (1.06) available

Postby Service-Team » 18. Jul 05, 04:41

In the beta-test forum (log in required) a new version with the features described above is available for download.

To the discussion above: In general, it is also my opinion that a program should not try to implement everything, however, this concrete feature can be very useful for using Silverjuke in kiosk mode if you do not want to use a mouse (you can try it out with a normal keyboard just by checking "Settings / Kiosk mode / Numpad / Use numpad"). Moreover, it has a direct correspondence in "real" jukeboxes, so everyone should understand what's going on.

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New beta-version (1.07) available in the beta-test forum

Postby Service-Team » 21. Jul 05, 03:46

The new version offers, in addition to the last beta, a menu-mode for the numpad controls.

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Official version 1.10 released

Postby Service-Team » 31. Jul 05, 03:39

The current official version 1.10 includes all the features described above. Have fun - and please let me know if this new feature can still be optimized.


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